# L. PASTUCH (recipient) - sender? **URL:** \ **Category:** Postkarten ukrainischer Zwangsarbeitender\ **Created:** [26. August 2025 um 13:47 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403 "2025-08-26T13:47:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\ **Post date:** [26. August 2025 um 13:47 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403/1 "2025-08-26T13:47:38Z")
![Document from the Arolsen Archives with the ID: 138740282](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/6/4/64ac22cf135a510ea9f6c5720a0671cb1eaf0f5e.jpeg) - **Document ID:** 138740282 - **Document Collection:** 7-2-1-5\_Briefe von Zwangsarbeitern und Zwangsarbeiterinnen ? # Discussion Question Larion PASTUCH (recipient) - no sender (?) - #ukrainian Asked by @routebleue ---
**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\ **Post date:** [26. August 2025 um 13:50 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403/2 "2025-08-26T13:50:55Z")
There doesn’t seem to be a sender. As for the recipient I entered (but I’m not sure at all) PASTUCH, Larion village: Tschernjotka district: Dschulinka Winniza - Ukraina Could it be these places? Dschulynka/Джулинка, a village in the south-east of Winniza. According to [wikipedia](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dschulynka) Tschernjatka/Чернятка is part of the same commune. According to [.wikidata Q4514532](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4514532) the two places are only about 6 km apart. Could this be the sender: Sawelij PASTUCH ? (writing to a relative in Tschernjatka?) ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/6/1/617d7eee3549795ed066f6fcf71d90b4ff948955.png) _(pdf, p.75)) [Sächsische Gedenkstätten](https://www.stsg.de/cms/sites/default/files/dateien/bilder/Hemer_de_alphabet.pdf)_ ---
**Author:** ![mally](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/mally/32/37511_2.png) [@mally](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/mally)\ **Post date:** [26. August 2025 um 17:19 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403/3 "2025-08-26T17:19:38Z")
Agree on the place: Чернятка. From the content of the postcard and the grammar, I assume it is a woman who is writing. Thanks for sharing the list, I didn’t know about that source. ---
**Author:** ![hanna.lehun](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/hanna.lehun/32/55_2.png) [@hanna.lehun](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/hanna.lehun)\ **Post date:** [2. September 2025 um 08:55 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403/4 "2025-09-02T08:55:06Z")
Agree, writing is from woman, but the research on the cemetery is also extremely helpful, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![mally](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/mally/32/37511_2.png) [@mally](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/mally)\ **Post date:** [7. September 2025 um 18:55 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403/5 "2025-09-07T18:55:13Z")
found a Maria Pastuch (Пастух, Марія) - of course not sure if its here, but the village and the rajon fits. ![IMG_1022](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/7/0/70d35e3b8ed1e8e15f3cae9f0dbe2ef758e09e9c.jpeg) she writes on 11.02.1943 _Sister, if only you could see how many different people are here. French,Poles and Ukrainians. Everyone is in misery…_ card of Maria Pastuch is mentioned as an example for letters (postcards) in which the forced workers express „a hidden pain, an unspeakable longing for family, loved ones, and beloved Ukraine, and a burning sorrow over their unhappy situation.“ (autom. trans.) source: [Eastern workers from Podillia in the Third Reich](http://history.org.ua/LiberUA/966-621-137-8/966-621-137-8.pdf) (ukr.) p. 198-199 **EDIT** : no i have doubts, that it is Maria Pastuch - the post stamp didnt fit (did she changed the locations in a pretty short term?) ![IMG_1144](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/1/3/13a0ac3634c8e0385f170840ee7b3ed8bb71dd2d.jpeg) Maria Pastuch 22.03.1943 Hochheim Main - shared by @routebleue below ![IMG_1143](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/6/6/66d45f58d338615301c55f2a2eb1a3dadc9e1174.jpeg) unknown 06.04.1943 Liegnitz? - (this card) ![IMG_1145](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/7/b/7bdfb98fc8509b756dcb64e99a308369885aec65.jpeg) Maria Pastuch - Rüsselsheim 30.11.1943 - here ([new card](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/marija-pastuch-30-11-1943/32131)) because if its Maria Pastuch (same person) it would mean Hochheim Main (22.03.1943) - Liegnitz 06.04.1943 - 30.11.1943 Rüsselsheim This doesn’t make sense to me, or I’m missing something here ---
**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\ **Post date:** [13. September 2025 um 17:27 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/l-pastuch-recipient-sender/31403/6 "2025-09-13T17:27:16Z")
![0b45adfb3093b6bc0781cecb98ec29c0a773fd19_2_1248x998](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/9/b/9b18368d7dca7d035dd516752fcd784b32cc8461.jpeg) Marija PASTUCH, same village (see [here](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/marija-pastuch/31715))