# Iwan ? \[…itner\]

**URL:** <https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/iwan-itner/37863>\
**Category:** Sterbefallnachweis sowjetischer Kriegsgefangener\
**Created:** [8. Oktober 2026 um 16:00 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/iwan-itner/37863 "2026-10-08T16:00:59Z")\
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**Post date:** [8. Oktober 2026 um 16:00 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/iwan-itner/37863/1 "2026-10-08T16:00:59Z")

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![Document from the Arolsen Archives with the ID: DHIM](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/e/1/e1044decd3311b17397a18c1686f4fea0be19733.jpeg)

- **Document ID:** DHIM  
- **Document Collection:** DHIM\_Bundesarchiv\_Sowjetische\_Kriegsgefangene\_DHIM\_BArch\_B\_563\_301080\_260\_0005\_003  

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# Discussion Question
Iwan ? […itner]

Asked by @routebleue

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**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\
**Post date:** [8. Oktober 2026 um 16:10 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/iwan-itner/37863/2 "2026-10-08T16:10:03Z")

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[edit]  
Some entries are only partly visible.  
cemetry: Neumünster - _[Russische u. sowjetische Kriegsgräberstätten Neumünster](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russische_und_sowjetische_Kriegsgr%C3%A4berst%C3%A4tten_in_der_Stadt_Neum%C3%BCnster)_

Could this be him?  
Iwan SHITNER (11.11.1909 – 11.6.1945)  
Иван Житнер ( → [obd](https://obd-memorial.ru/html/search.htm?f=%D0%96%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80&n=%D0%98%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%20&s=&y=11.11.1909&r))  
[arolsen-archives](https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/search?s=iwan%20shitner)

> **more entries in grave lists of Neumünster- (15.06.1945 = date of burial)**
>
> ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/3/3/33cd663bcfea7eb574c7fecb743146faca92c851.webp)  
> ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/1/d/1de14b62217a4b2f83ba3725004c6e8244c9a0e4.png)  
> [pamyat](https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/memorial-chelovek_plen70801594/)

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And could this be the same person?  
Iwan SBITNEW (11.11.1909 – 11.6.1945)  
Иван Сбитнев  
in the list of graves on _Nordfriedhof_ Neumünster (not „Südfriedhof“ like in the document, but „O III 76“ seems to match.)

> **see here**
>
> ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/optimized/3X/2/7/274eaec59e5bfa4ff3114ebb249114f6d233958f_2_690x48.png)  
> [obd](https://obd-memorial.ru/html/info.htm?id=86199369&p=7)  
> ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/optimized/3X/9/e/9e1b2dcc01c01b6fcda45e6c586f73a5475a8777_2_690x63.png)  
> [pamyat](https://pamyat-naroda.ru/heroes/memorial-chelovek_plen70801045/)
> 
> ![grafik](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/3/7/37e472111e02d983061167d37a696cf0a138e5b9.jpeg) - [Namenliste Nordfriedhof Neumünster](https://grabsteine.genealogy.net/namelist.php?cem=888&lang=de)