# \[Auswandererkartei Bremen (International Refugee Organization-Kartei im Original)\] do\_Btjivin5Fv6zXzELt9AnP **URL:** \ **Category:** Dokumente\ **Created:** [25. Januar 2024 um 20:25 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614 "2024-01-25T20:25:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![moewenzahn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/moewenzahn/32/21622_2.png) [@moewenzahn](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/moewenzahn)\ **Post date:** [25. Januar 2024 um 20:25 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/1 "2024-01-25T20:25:24Z")
![Document from the Arolsen Archives with the ID: do_Btjivin5Fv6zXzELt9AnP](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/arolsen_archives/original/3X/e/0/e0c1765abf2ef04c8319966ab08ca78a98ae42f6.jpeg) - **Document ID:** do\_Btjivin5Fv6zXzELt9AnP - **Document Collection:** 7-5-18 Auswandererkartei (IRO Kartei) des Staatsarchiv Bremen - **Link to Online Archive:** ? # Discussion Question #ship ---
**Author:** ![moewenzahn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/moewenzahn/32/21622_2.png) [@moewenzahn](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/moewenzahn)\ **Post date:** [25. Januar 2024 um 20:27 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/2 "2024-01-25T20:27:14Z")
#ship name starts with (Gen) „Mol“ or „Hol“, no real match in [Troopships of World War II](http://www.usmm.org/troopships.html#anchor1062523) ---
**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\ **Post date:** [25. Januar 2024 um 21:12 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/3 "2024-01-25T21:12:24Z")
What about „Gen Holbrook“? (ohne Gewähr!) There is a ship named after General Willard A. Holbrook in the list, but without „General“ in its official name. (p.64) [https://history.army.mil/documents/WWII/wwii\_Troopships.pdf](https://history.army.mil/documents/WWII/wwii_Troopships.pdf) Einen guten Abend noch! ---
**Author:** ![moewenzahn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/moewenzahn/32/21622_2.png) [@moewenzahn](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/moewenzahn)\ **Post date:** [25. Januar 2024 um 21:44 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/4 "2024-01-25T21:44:25Z")
OK, thanks, I was focused on „General“ … But „Willard A. Holbrook“ was layed up already in March 1948. So even if the year number on the card reads 1948 (I read 1949, btw.), this would not fit, given we trust Wikipedia: [SS President Taft - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_President_Taft) … Schönen Abend auch so! Nachher gibts auf HR noch eine Sendung über das Massaker im Arnsberger Wald. ---
**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\ **Post date:** [26. Januar 2024 um 10:54 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/5 "2024-01-26T10:54:02Z")
Good morning (~~seagull)~~ eagle eye! 🦅 I was so focused on the general that my mole eyes completely missed the year! A nice WE to you! ---
**Author:** ![moewenzahn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/moewenzahn/32/21622_2.png) [@moewenzahn](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/moewenzahn)\ **Post date:** [26. Januar 2024 um 19:37 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/6 "2024-01-26T19:37:07Z")
Two heads are better than one. I admit that „Holbrook“ comes close. Unfortunately I couldn´t find any further evidence for the history of the „Holbrook“ Edit: See [[Auswandererkartei Bremen (International Refugee Organization-Kartei im Original)] do\_NeSxaex3WtjyMm1HGtBNw - #2 von moewenzahn](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-nesxaex3wtjymm1hgtbnw/13661/2) ---
**Author:** ![routebleue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/routebleue/32/53115_2.png) [@routebleue](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/routebleue)\ **Post date:** [27. Januar 2024 um 02:14 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/7 "2024-01-27T02:14:22Z")
Hi @moewenzahn, we were on the right track! See documents with Creation date **Sept. 12, 1949** (= date in card!) „transport by ship (USAT GENERAL HOLBROOK)“ – [https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/archive/3-1-3-2\_8302440](https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/archive/3-1-3-2_8302440) Leon ALEXANDROWICZ’s name is on the list [https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/document/81663190](https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/document/81663190) You are absolutely right too about the „Willard Holbrook“ (and so is Wikipedia) see info here and the ship’s original documents (under „status cards“) [https://vesselhistory.marad.dot.gov/ShipHistory/Detail/5172](https://vesselhistory.marad.dot.gov/ShipHistory/Detail/5172) Maybe she was still active for DP passages (1948-1949) from the Reserve Fleet, where she was laid up before she finally retired in December 1949. [Quote] „The Reserve Fleet ships in storage, called „mothballed“, that can be ready for use if needed. Many are awaiting scrapping due to the age or condition of the ship.[…] A few ships became museum ships and other sold to private companies. Ships can be readied for use in 20 to 120 days during national emergencies or natural disaster.“ (source: [James River, Reserve Fleet - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_River,_Reserve_Fleet)) finally a small oddity: A Holbrook „newspaper – souvenir edition“, self-designed (by crew members?) (no date given (but 1949 is indirectly mentioned as „4 years after the end of WWII“.) > **[22044a.pdf](https://www.navsource.org/archives/09/22/pdf/22044a.pdf)** > > 3.17 MB - [https://www.navsource.org/archives/09/22/22044.htm](https://www.navsource.org/archives/09/22/22044.htm) (Und wenn es nun doch 2 verschiedene Schiffe sind?? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![moewenzahn](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/talk.arolsen-archives.org/moewenzahn/32/21622_2.png) [@moewenzahn](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/u/moewenzahn)\ **Post date:** [30. Januar 2024 um 14:53 UTC](https://talk.arolsen-archives.org/t/auswandererkartei-bremen-international-refugee-organization-kartei-im-original-do-btjivin5fv6zxzelt9anp/13614/8 "2024-01-30T14:53:54Z")
Kann ich mir nicht vorstellen, dann müsste es mehr verschiedene Daten geben, vielleicht ist auch die Troopships-Seite nicht 100%ig und führt die „Holbook“ ohne General - wie auch immer, ich habe hier jetzt eine Karte mit definitiv „General Holbrook“: [https://collab.arolsen-archives.org/de/classifications/cl\_BRNjCJN4pwgDCakwh7X25](https://collab.arolsen-archives.org/de/classifications/cl_BRNjCJN4pwgDCakwh7X25) Schönen Abend! /W